Joshua 24:1-33, Beyond Sunday is about being a person who is after Gods own heart a person who loves God first and foremost who places their love relationship number one in their life the person who does the One Thing the greatest thing first with God/Jesus love, Beyond Sunday pt. It would definitely be interesting to hear his perspective.. Amber, you seem like a very dear sister, and I love you. Like I said in todays article God has more for you and expects more from you than from you than settling for fluff and false doctrine. Oops! Steven Furtick is the pastor of Lysa TerKeurst, and he is on Oprahs Super Soul 100 list. Remember, the Bible says our hearts are deceitful (Jeremiah 17:9), so we cant trust our feelings unless they line up with, and are based on, the truth of Gods word. Priscillas friendliness and genuine care for Christian women seem to shine throughevery word she speaks and writes. A sermon examining the fact that we should ever be amazed by Jesus. I thought most people read themselves in scripture. And to top that all off, shes beautiful and sharp as a tack. In the first approximately 90 seconds of the video you can clearly see and hear men in the audience, and in her introductory remarks, Prisicilla indicates that she is preaching the Sunday service at this church. Until that time, however, it saddens me to have to recommend that Christian women not follow Priscilla Shirer or any materials or activities from Going Beyond Ministries for the following reasons: Priscilla unrepentantly preaches to and instructs men in the Scriptures in violation of 1 Timothy 2:12-14(as well as other passages of Scripture that do not allow this). Ive fixed it (as well as a few others that have expired). Based on Saikowoods earlier post, you are not even familiar with the fact that Dr. Tony Evans is her father. I felt the Lord provided it at the very time I needed it. I think you are judging and do not agree with you. 1 Samuel 30: 6 And David was greatly distressed; for the people spake of stoning him, because the soul of all the people was grieved, every man for his sons and for his daughters: but David encouraged himself in the LORD his read more, Scripture: We shouldnt believe just whatever we see on the internet. Yes, hope is needed, and no youre not going to find it on the news, but youre not going to find true hope in Beth Moore or Priscilla Shirer, either, because not only can you not find hope in bad news (like the TV news) but you cant find hope in false news either, and thats what they teach. Well, man, if theres only going to be a handful of people experiencing what weve learned on the pewthen I want one of those to be me., The story of Joshua and Caleb being the only ones to enter the Promised Land has absolutely no connection whatsoever with how many Christians today will be able to achieve intimacy with God. Priscilla has also admitted in her book Discerning the Voice of God, p.39, that she reads herself into Scripture, an unbiblical practice sometimes called narcissistic eisegesis or narcigesis. Real hope is only found in the true Christ of Scripture, and thats not what Beth and Priscilla teach. If not, she does not know the Bible well enough to be teaching (James 3:1). Before I address some of your specific concerns, two things: First, thank you for the kind and civil tone of your comment. If that is you, let me save you the time and effort of writing another comment. Should she repent in these areas in which she has broken Scripture and align herself with biblical principles, she would have no bigger fan than I, and I would rejoice to be able to point Christian women to her as a doctrinally sound resource. These women are an excellent entry way in to the faith. One example that best showcases Priscillas penchant for eisegesis and poor hermeneutics can be found in this promotional video for her study,One in a Million: 0:46-This same God was supposed to be speaking to me, teaching to me, making Himself relevant to mein the regular rhythms of my everyday living. These believers from different denominations Priscilla references who rattled her theological box may have been part of Priscillas initial exposure to false Word of Faith teaching and false teachers such as the aforementioned Meyer, Caine, and Osteens. Our young ministry assistant, a woman, is using Discerning Gods Voice for our womens Bible study. 5. (I remember when I was a missionary to New Guinea back in the 80s, the missionaries were teaching us how to reach the unsaved New Guinea nationals by telling simple Bible stories, and stories of how our lives were changed by Jesus. i listen to Dr. Tony Evans and i love to hear him preach, he is a good pastor and knows the word of God, so i do not understand why all this negativity about his daughter, i agree with the bible about women being pastors, and she is not a pastor according to how much i know about her( i only know about her from war room). Although that interpretation of the text is a possibility, being consistent with the rest of Scripture, it is by no means certain. Two of the three best known sources Ive listed, Justin Peters and Aimee Byrd, are Reformed. Often God reveals more through discussions and scripture references. John 14:1-4, Luke 10:18-20, 1 Corinthians 15:19. Jesus did that too, so did Samuel, so did Elijah . Good News Translation For your sake, my friends, I have applied all this to Apollos and me, using the two of us as an example, so that you may learn what the saying means, "Observe the proper rules." Just got home form a conference defending the faith. No-one is beyond reach. 3 Tests Of Plagiarism: Do Your Sermons Pass Them. I KNOW this is a looooong series of questions about Priscilla Shirer that was stimulated by your post. Thanks so much for sharing this with me, Kelly! Im sure you can find other examples on YouTube if you need them. Defining Moment; Joshua 24 Preached at Midway Community Church June 11, 2000; Moving Beyond the Motions Jeremiah 24:7. Are you into apologetics or something? Copyright 2003-2023 | Outreach, Inc., All rights reserved. True, and there are many problems with Beth Moore as well. Pentecostal. Matthew 6:9-13. Thanks so much for your comment. Go, gather together all the Jews who are in Susa, and fast for me. Run as far away from both of them as possible. All comments are handled manually, and I do not publish comments which promote false doctrine. If a pastor (or husband- Beth has also said she is acting under her husbands mantle of authority) tries to give her that authority, he is putting himself in the place of God who has prohibited it and he is sinning, too. She has been doing so for years. 7 Steps to Figuring it Out on Your Own helpful in understanding biblically whether or not someone is a false teacher. In keeping with the spirit of Titus 3:10-11, this is your second warning (the first is in the Welcome tab, which youve obviously already read) I will not engage in debate about biblical truth and I will not publish comments or respond to e-mails/messages attempting to engage me in debate. The law in this case, being Scripture. I think you might find this brief video helpful as an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-_THJXignk. (Yikes!). Jonah 2:10. Plus, she has a Bible and supposedly knows it well enough to teach it. She is the New York Times Best Selling author of more than two dozen books and has had featured roles in movies like War Room (2015), I Can Only Imagine (2018) and Overcomer (2019). Elizabeth. Pink Impact ConferencePriscilla joined with faith healing apostle of the New Apostolic Reformation, Todd White, as well as false teachers Christine Caine, Lisa Harper, and Pastor Debbie Morris. The reason I refer people in on line conversations to my articles is so I dont have to regurgitate what Ive already written. 3And I will make thee swear by I am asking the following question to understand your doctrinal views. The proper method of teaching Scripture is exegesis. MAIN TEXT: MATTHEW 14:15 Priscilla partners and associates with false teachers such as Joyce Meyer, Christine Caine,Joel and Victoria Osteen, Beth Moore, and T.D. Though there are others, these are the major doctrinal errors in this video, which is less than four minutes of teaching from Priscilla. Paul is quite clearthat people who preach another gospel are accursed, or damned, and that we are not to partner with them. No, Im not violating Scripture by teaching men when they read or comment on my blog. For example, the Bible clearly says that women are not to preach to or teach men in the church (2 Timothy 2:12). I can always use more people praying for me. They are busy caring for their churches. There is only ONE requirement for salvation, and that is accepting that Jesus Christs blood took the place of our sin, recognize our sin and confess it, believe that Jesus is Gods son. Unfortunately, Word Press doesnt show me that kind of thing until after Ive published my own comment. read more, Scripture: and before she began she said that she was there under the guidance of her pastor and that if men were present, they should understand that her teachings were meant for women. Before you answer No too quickly, consider that we cannot live without fear. Morning Service But when an author rebukes another Christian publicly, as you have Ms. Shirer, than perhaps they may be asked to clarify further? *People who blessed us. The third, Chris Rosebrough, is Lutheran (AALC), and much of his theology is in line with Reformed theology. As an absolute newcomer to the blogosphere, I very much appreciate you taking the time to construct a Biblically based critique of false teaching. In the videos Ive viewed, there are only women involved (with the exception of the camera guys and the lighting guys.) Also, if you will read the article hyperlinked at the very top of this article, right underneath the title, where it says, If youre considering commenting it will answer your objections- with Scripture. Genesis 24:15-20, Denomination: Kay Arthur, Beth Moore, and Priscilla Shirer Believe In Teaching Men Tooat Surphs Side. They needed to be reminded of who the true Christ of Scripture was. Do you think the stretching feels good? It is about sin in the local congregation where you actually know the person personally and have access to him/her. It would stand to reason that all those that have never heard of Christ have not accepted Him and therefore, as Rom 1 details, they die in their sin. 1 Corinthians 4:6 says: I have applied all these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, brothers, that you may learn by us not to go beyond what is written, that none of you may be puffed up in favor of one against another. Go beyond what's fair. -Opened new I dont think you read my comment carefully enough. Here is a partial list of things that the Bible does not answer definitively: 1. #4b- this is supposition on your part. Yes, thats correct. Sometimes the Bible can be difficult because it steps on our toes, but I promise, I will always point you Scripture, not to stories, fluff, false doctrine, or your own opinions, feelings, and experiences. MATTHEW 14:16 #3 Priscilla teaches to listen for Gods voice. I attended a conference with Beth Moore, whom I know you have accused also of teaching and preaching to men, and before she began she said that she was there under the guidance of her pastor and that if men were present, they should understand that her teachings were meant for women. Philippians 4:13 Verse Concepts I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. You may not agree with all of these points, but there is enough here to indicate that you should be very wary of getting involved with Priscilla Shirer studies. Do not eat or drink for three days, night or day. I think the best reward for the reader is to take all those views as complementary and related being parts of the same whole system of interpretation. 15 Outstanding Quotes To Recharge Your Preaching. Read 2 CHRONICLES 34:1-33 [1] Josiah was eight years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem thirty-one years. And, sometimes, basic is enough. 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