Galante was 32 when he took the helm at RCA Nashville, the youngest person to ever lead a major labels Nashville division. Shame on country music. Industry: Tillman Franks, Don Pierce, Bob Pinson. Hes been dead for over 60 years and still cant get in the HoF. The fans voices deserve to be heard. May 15, 2022 @ The announcement will go live on CMAs YouTube channel at 10:00 am central time. March 25, 2022 @ A Hall of Fame induction might feel like a the best year of his career are over, and Kenny doesnt feel like one to resign himself to that just yet. Asleep at the Wheel has done so much to teach folks about the great history of Western Swing music. Luckyoldsun But make no mistake, its coming, and likely sooner than later. May 18, 2022 @ Someone needs to get over themselves. 10:24 am, Dan Da Hootenanny Modern: Dwight Yoakam, Shania Twain, Trisha Yearwood Youre referring to the actual induction. 11:06 am. His name has appeared in Country hits by George Jones (Whos Gonna Fill Their Shoes), John Michael Montgomery (I Love the Way You Love Me), Tim McGraw (Southern Voice) and the Statler Brothers (How to Be a Country Star) though, of course, nobody drops his name more in their songs than he does himself. Loretta, Dolly, Willie, and George Strait are all still alive too. BRO country Carson Robison was an important country artist in four decades, but isnt in. Web2022 David Frizzell. Trisha Yearwood: Its the timeless songs, and how Yearwood was one of the most important women throughout the 90s that makes her an eligible candidate for the Hall of Fame. I never met him persoanlly but we personally communicated electronically several times. I have everyone who is in the real Hall Of Fame, plus an additional 26 artists. Have I opened a can of worms? Id rather cry Cocksucking tears than listen to it. 7:18 pm. Additionally, Trisha Yearwood sang her classic (featuring Eddie Bayers' drumming) "Walkaway Joe," plus veteran performer and recent The Voice finalist Wendy Moten singing George Jones' legendary "He Stopped Loving Her Today" were standouts. March 24, 2022 @ Thats how humble he was.. Calling people communists and insults liberals like crazy why does he get away with this if you ARE .MODERATING EVERY ONE? Inductee Wynonna Judd, Marty Stuart, Randy Travis and Mary Davis attend the class of 2021 medallion ceremony at Country Music Hall of Fame and Museum on May 01, A formal induction ceremony for Galante, Lewis and Whitley will take place at the Country Music Hall of Fame and Museum in the CMA Theater this fall. 2021 Country Music Hall of Fame Inductees Jimmy Dean. Considering TanyaTucker s amazing career, and her BRILLIANT 2019 Grammy award winning album and song, Bring My Flowers Now, it will be borderline criminal if she is not inducted this time. Particularly, recent ACM and CMA award-winning Female Vocalist and Artist of the Year Carly Pearce's earnest, heartwarming take on The Judds' 1984 "Grandpa (Tell Me 'Bout The Good Old Days)" and soulful roots duo The War and Treaty's scintillating version of Ray Charles' 1962 "Modern Sounds in Country and Western Music" track "You Don't Own Me" were warmly received. The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Other. Shes over due to be inducted in to the CMHOF!! 9:36 am, Now that the Veteran Era is filled with 70s an d 80s acts like Linda Ronstadt, Rosanne Cash, the Gatlin Brothers, and Tanya Tucker, maybe they should create a third (or chronologically first) category for long-gone, pre-jet-age artists whove fallen through the cracks like Al Dexter, the Stanley Brothers, Maddox Bros./Rose, Johnny Horton, Jean Shepard, Carl Butler, Stonweall Jackson, et al. Yes, I even embedded an actual player in the body of this article where people can see it. 2023 CMA Country Music Association Inc. What did I do wrong? he remembered thinking. 5:31 am. 1:21 pm. Touching home, Another place another time, Middle age crazy, I was sorta wondering, Mother the queen of my heart, Help me make it through the night and To make love sweeter for you are all reasons why Jerry Lee is a master of country music and major hitmaker with it during the 1960s onwards. Erik Kaldor She, along with Crystal Gayle and Tanya Tucker, are the three female artists that should be being considered today. Dierks Bentley, Alan Jackson, Alison Krauss, Blake Shelton and others have acknowledged Whitleys influence. Imagining how Whitley would have reacted at his induction ceremony caused Morgan, overpowered with joy and grief in equal measure to pause. 1:39 pm. Now that 90s artists are starting to be inducted its an exciting time for me. Yes to Earl and John. He never became a member of the Grand Ole Opry. The Hall of Fame does a horrible job making this process appeal to the public. Maybe someone can shed some light on that. In 2021, Jimmy Dean, Charley Pride, and Jerry Bradley will be inducted into the Hall of Fame. The Gram Parsons suit worn as part of the Flying Burrito Brothers The Gilded Palace of Sin album in 1969 with the pills and marijuana leaves emblazoning the coat was a Nudie Suit. The 2021 class of The Judds, Ray Charles, and musicians Eddie Bayers and Pete Drake wasnt announced until August 16th, and they were just formally inducted on May 1st. God willing, I hope I live long enough to see it (the bio and the induction). Tennessee Titans 'open for business' to NFL Draft trades. After his delightful 2022 album, hes surely eligible. He gets unfairly typecast as The Battle of New Orleans guy, and in that regard perhaps considered more of a war song novelty act. I hear her & Gilley mentioned a lot along with Tanya & Jerry Lee. Killing it, is its own reward. Its not a requirement, though. March 28, 2022 @ Earl Thomas Conley hands-down! He changed the way people thought about country music because he was so cool. She addedthat blending Whitleys voice with honest storytelling, timeless rock production standards and classic folk standards allowed No. The little boy from Ferriday, LA listening to Jimmie Rodgers and Hank Williams never thought hed be in a Hall amongst them. 8:57 am. She said Naomi Judd, 76, diedat 2:20 p.m. Saturday afternoon. But that brief span before Whitleys 1989 death resulted in some of the most indelible songs of the era, including the consecutive Number Ones Dont Close Your Eyes, When You Say Nothing at All, and Im No Stranger to the Rain. Like fellow Kentuckian Ricky Skaggs, he also brought a bluegrass background into the country mainstream, and continues to reach ears in 2021 as his 1985 hit Miami, My Amy makes the rounds on TikTok. ( Sink the Bismarck, Johnny reb) But a deep dive into his catalog reveals some brilliant early Honky-Tonkin Rockabilly. An online petition exists to try and push Jerry Lee over the top. April 14, 2022 @ Hes on the Ballot. He also serves on the board of Fishbowl Spirits, LLC, and on the Music Advisory Council for Abes Garden, an Alzheimers care and learning center. March 22, 2022 @ Maddox Brothers and Rose would get in, then Paycheck (if a good Christian woman like Connie would vote for Paycheck then, well, the hypocrites probably wouldnt). Neither are the fiddlers who made instrumental records even earlier. Here come the comments that completely ignore Whitleys nearly fourteen years in bluegrass music. Ashley Judd accepts induction on behalf of Naomi Judd with Ricky Skaggs, left, inductee Wynonna Judd onstage for the class of 2021 medallion ceremony at Country Music Hall of Fame and Museum on May 1, 2022 in Nashville, Tenn. "This is the first time I've talked since saying goodbye to her," she went on. 2:34 pm. Especially Johnnie, if it hadnt been for him, we wouldnt even have Kitty Wells. Id love all of these people to get in too. NattyBumpo Patrick Haggerty Unfortunately, I think the reason that we never hear his name mentioned is because there are so many true superstars not in yet that are in front of him. March 22, 2022 @ 2019 CMHOF inducteesand the greatest country music duo of all timeBrooks & Dunn will host the announcement, which will also live stream via the CMAs YouTube at 10 a.m. CT. In 2021, CMA honored him with the J. William Denny Award, to honor a lifetime of dedication, distinguished service and meritorious contributions to the CMA Board of Directors. 5:12 pm. David Frizzell David Frizzells life and his career are tightly woven into the fabric of country music history and lore. I dont disagree that hes worthy. But lets make one thing clear, YOU FO NOT KNOW A DAMN THING ABOUT FREEDOM OF SPEECH. March 24, 2022 @ Im not going to open the hornets nest of arguing over those already in either institution that didnt exactly wait their turn. He never accepted that he could have a great record deal or that he could have as much as everybody else had. Keith Whitley, Jerry Lee Lewis, and Joe Galante will be inducted into the Country Music Hall of Fame. For way too long, modern country singers who have sold lots of records but who have not founded whole genres or made a unique style of music associated with them popular have gone in. 5:27 pm. 8:53 pm. He released his first major label album with BNA in 1995, and had two Top 10 singles, Fall In Love and All I Need to Know. Its hard to see him as a serious contender until a few other names tick off the list, but stranger things have happened. She has the track record to show it, numerous hits and has won every major award known in country music during her era. (Still) The Ghost of OlaR When Moon went solo, he had his first hits with the pandemic ballad Sweeter than the flowers and the blues ballad Ill sail my ship alone but he also recorded uptempo blues like Triflin woman blues, Whats the matter with the mill, I done it and Rocket to the moon. It is the pinnacle of my career and something unexpected to happen. March 22, 2022 @ But you never hear Eddie Rabbitts name brought up in the context of the Hall of Fame. Hall of Fame inductees Brooks & Dunn will be hosting the announcement, and it will be live streamed on the CMAs YouTube Channel, and here on Saving Country Music (see below). So if you never print anything of mine again. 11:07 am. Anybody whos comin up with a number in the 20s must be counting his placings on the Canadian country chart, where he had more longevity as a top-tier act. It was also an occasion that was still heavy with the recent death of 2021 Hall of Fame inductee Naomi Judd for her work in the Judds. Her last top ten for years may have been in 1974 but she was in the top 20 with almost every record for the rest of the 1970s. The 2022 inductions bring the total number of Hall of Fame inductees to 149. The Country Music Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony is an annual event that honors the contributions of artists and industry professionals to the genre of country music. This website uses cookies to improve your experience while you navigate through the website. 50 years of keeping Western Swing alive. Regarding the vocalist known for songs like "I Can't Stop Loving You," who died in 2004 as inimitable, 2014 Country Music Hall of Fame inductee Milsap added, "There was one of him and only one. Whitleys emergence as a Nashville superstar after releasing his 1987 album Dont Close Your Eyes can be directly correlated to the work of his fellow Kentuckians who preceded him. Lynn Anderson needs to be next along with Most of the big Hayride performers later moved and recorded in Nashville and became members of the Opry, but, Johnny being killed in 1960 while the Hayride was still going and the first inducties to the hall of fame in 62-63, Johnnys Hall of Fame chances were slim and still are. 1s. No question most all of the folks mentioned here deserve to be in the CMHoF. Find tour dates and live music events for all your favorite bands and artists in your city! For the life of me I cannot understand why these are closed off. Anthony But I dont think anyone can deny that Earl Thomas Conley had a career like no other and contributed some of the best talent and music that Country Music fans have ever been blessed with. Instead it reads ( petition) as if hes not really worthy. Non-performer Lorianne Crook & Charlie Chase, Les Leverett, Bob Kingsley, Allen Reynolds, or Keith Stegall, jimincincy He passed away in 2013. March 24, 2022 @ I was afraid of that. Keep these two in mind also ! Earl is worthy of a HOF induction (like so many people on this page), but putting up a sentence or two of Earls well-earned accomplishments is not going to change whether he gets voted in or not. Apr 30, 2022 6:04pm A writer who had seen it all with the courage to say what he believed, Flippo had the ability to stimulate discussion like none other in his field. Find tour dates and live music events for all your favorite bands and artists in your city! I agree on the criminal part and I get where youre coming from on the Brooks and Dunn comment. March 23, 2022 @ Patience mixed with persistence is what Coe and Paycheck fans need to see their heroes inducted. Once more, Carter and Ralph Stanley should be in years ago. It will be a very sad day for country music when Shania Twain is inducted. The Powers That Be in Nashville probably decided he wouldnt get in while he was alive. It was also in a time that women in country music, and country music in general, was still a second class citizen. Its just you, and me, and everyone else gabbing about the music we love. But also bolstering Larry Gatlins case is hes one of these men about town types that seems to be at every function and gala in the country music realm, is active in the community, and is willing to help keep the legacy of country music alive, which the Hall of Fame selection committee often rewards. And all 34 of Rabbitts Top 10 hits came in a row, one after another, between 1976s Drinkin My Baby (Off My Mind) and 1990 Runnin With The Wind. Eddie Rabbitts career wasnt just accomplished, it was downright Hall of Fame worthy. Ironically, the first of three albums he was featured on with the group was titled My Home Ain't in the Hall of Fame.. Geez.. robbushblog Patrick Wall And why are my comments seem to be the only ones monitored? Ralph Stanley & the Stanley Brothers is an absurd omission as well! Inductees are voted on by CMAs Hall of Fame Panels of Electors, an anonymous body chosen by the CMA Board of Directors. Jean Shepard was inducted into the Hall in 2011. A perfect example of this is Alan Jackson. In 2022, there will be two (2) Hall of Fame Inductees selected: one (1) Artist and one (1) Builder. Whos on the ballot this year for the Hall of Fame in the Veterans and Modern categories and What are your predictions for the 2022 Hall of Fame inductees?. His first Gold-record certification, for Dont Close Your Eyes, came two months after his death, and his Grammy Awards nominations and CMA Awards came posthumously. Saving Country Music Prediction: Tanya Tucker, Larry Gatlin and the Gatilin Brothers, Jerry Lee Lewis, Crystal Gayle, Saving Country Musics Picks: Maddox Brothers & Rose, Jerry Lee Lewis, The Stanley Brothers/Ralph Stanley, Tanya Tucker. No doubt will be Whoopie Goldberg. Yeah I was attempting to be sarcastic in that comment. I have seen SIR HONKEY FACE and others ask you why you deleted their comments? In 1988, Whitley had two #1 singles When You Say Nothing At All and Im No Stranger to the Rain off the album Dont Close Your Eyes, and was expected to become a superstar in country music in the coming years. If you listed his accomplishments it would be very apparent that he should already be in the HOF. I fell in love with the voice before I fell in love with the man. robbushblog Come folks, he needs to be recognized! I dont care if inducting Maines into the hof is the cure for covid count me out, IN fact if she does get in I say we shutter the whole enterprise and start a new one from scratch, In fact, the only WOMAN in country music who deserves to be on this list, so far as Im concerned, Maybe someday the case could be made for Susan Raye but the QUALITY of ones work needs to be a factor here not just sales numbers, And every woman on this list strikes out in that regard, and for that matter I hold that same opinion of last years judds (one song notwithstanding), And of course, Lorrie Morgan is exempt from my criticism above, War Paint is one album I wore out like three cassettes of and have TWO on cd and one tape of currently, But for real I mean half of these artists just blend together for me as being flash in the pan blips of their era, Tony R Galante has served as a consultant to BMG Music and Morris Higham Management, and he has chaired the Music City Music Council, a group of leaders dedicated to further establishing Nashvilles position as the global music capital. Keith Whitley Keith Whitley was a Lefty Frizzell-loving Country boy from rural Kentucky. March 22, 2022 @ Patty. Not sure where its going. While those two records are, by far, his most famous, those who know his catalog more deeply understand that he has full mastery of a centurys worth of popular music, from 19th-century minstrel tunes to the songs of Tin Pan Alley standards to classic rock. 4:15 pm. Dozens of artists have covered his material on record or in concert. 12:20 am. Just a mere mention is all WATSON gets. They were versatile too, doing a fine cover of Moon Mullicans bluegrass pandemic classic Sweeter than the flowers, a rock n roll Finger poppin time and a blues Pretty Polly Blues. Di Harris More importantly, the CMF/CMHoFs vast 78 rpm collection is the result of decades of Pinsons passion for collecting and preserving the early decades of recorded commercial country music. Annette Conrad Trisha Yearwood 1:58 pm. Not only would it create more public interest and debate in the nomination process, it would also shine a deserved spotlight on the artists who make the currently-secret shortlist but who havent yet won the vote. The hall of fame needs to do a mass induction year and get more artists in there. Kenny Chesney As weird as it may seem, Kenny Chesney was officially eligible for the Hall of Fame in 2015. The cookies is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Necessary". May 17, 2022 @ The cookie is used to store the user consent for the cookies in the category "Analytics". Lefty Frizzell, Jim Reeves, and the Louvin Brothers Ira Louvin all died in their 40s. Now that Dolly Parton is in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, it may be Willie Nelson's turn to be inducted. And Joe Galante is a game-changing executive from the urban northeast. It probably also doesnt hurt that shes married to a big voice in the Hall of Fame voting room and an inductee himself, Garth Brooks. 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