The CPX-2 fails to fully eject one shell per magazine. It is not a pleasant gun to shoot, but a helluva lot worse on the receiving end. Definitelythe first Gen 1 models had problemsHowever, the second Gen 2 models are fine. I have thousands of rounds through both and they keep on trucking One gun has 5000 rounds with just one failure with all kinds of ammo and that was a bad primer strike, which by the way the Pico has double strike capability which took care of that. Maybe something like this? Taurus TCP voted best value-best overall 380 was Kahr p380-MUCH more expensive. While the LCP II is still a small pocket pistol, Ruger made a number of improvements to it. Stainless steel throughout the gun. I used to have one. Zero malfunctions in 300 rounds including pocket lint coverings. It is a small barrel gun NOT a target gun. We buy a pocket gun for last-ditch self defense, which literally makes it a do-or-die gun. And I have not shot one better then these in the same weight and AOL class. No it is not a light striker fired trigger. The S&W MP EZ 380 read the reviews even on the Glock site they praise the SW MP 380 EZ Apparently their readership likes Sigs with large sample sizes. But again, the people have spoken: the Pico sucks. ONE STAR FOR YOU! kind of reviews. Stovepiped and double fed left and right, and Kel-Tec didnt want to lift a finger without me footing the bill for shipping. Kahr CW 380. Pick up a Taurus 738 tcp and it is super snappy vs the cw380. Cobra lasted 10 minutes in my house. Not sure why the Sccy is on this list, I own a cpx2 and its great! I trust my Hellcat 380 as much as I do my S & W 39, but I prefer a tight revolver over any semi-auto when my life depends on it. http://www.waltherarms.com/handguns/ppk/ Really it sounds like some pretty crappy customer service. No sights (Stick it up their nose and pull the trigger). I shoot a lot of pocket guns. Who knew a firearm could actually be worse? It is not some junker throwaway, but a solid, well machined piece with a heavy but smooth DAO trigger which emulates a DA revolver, by design and makes the piece perhaps a bit more safely carried and handled for many that may feel uncomfortable with a light, short pull SA. .380 pocket pistols are traditionally difficult to fire for a number of reasons: in addition to the horrid trigger pulls like we just discussed, they also suffer from being extremely snappy due to their small size. Get real. The SCCY model CPX-2 is a fine lightweight pistol that shoots a stopper round 9mm. An odd shaped frame that in my opinion they actually went too small on trying to outdo everyone to be the king of small in 380s. Shocking that an IO Inc product is at the bottom of the barrel. Obvious, one writers bias, trying to get internet rookies to bash guns most have never shot nor even understand. Funny the SCCY was rated on 2 other surveys as one of the top 5 affordable and reliable pocket guns. And of course, they criticize all the brands that dont advertise with them. But hey, thanks for calling regulars to this site a-holes. Standing out as one of the smallest on this list, Kahr isnt a So I returned it to them, they replaced several worn parts and returned it. The number of ratings is what sold his other books. Having visited that site, I dont think their rating system really gives me enough information to choose between firearms. Their customer service is great and my pistol has run 100% since I bought it with multiples of hundreds of rounds through it. Or had a bad exp. Im a Glock 27 guy, so I dont mind recoil. Surprised the Remington R51 didnt make this list. It makes my SR40C feel like a 9mm. It came back still not fixed. These are not military combat weapons. This only naturally makes it more difficult to fire properly like we just talked about. If there is what looks like an empty hole its uncocked. While larger .380 pistols such as the Walther PPK/S, Walther PK380, Bersa Thunder 380, and Glock 42 dont have this problem, the truly small pocket pistols such as the LCP and TCP most certainly do. There are many more maligned pocket guns and sub-compacts on the market than these two. The Beretta APX has a 4.4 rating from 22 votes It sucks so hard that its suckage transcends space and time. Here are some basic facts for the Ruger LCP II: In conclusion, the Ruger LCP II simply represents the beginning of the evolution of the .380 pocket pistol. In fact, yanking the mag should tell him to learn the gun. Have owned and shot most of them. Given how clannish and brand-loyal a lot of gunners are, it wouldnt shock me if about half the votes against the SCCY were cast because it wasnt a Glock 43, or something equally biased and stupid. Considering the price point of the SCCY, its fit, finish and functionality is excellent. Bounce is not horrible but that along with size will take some of the enjoyment out of the session. Wecantdislike shooting it so much that well never practice with it. I carry the SCCY more often and have cycled quite a few rounds through it. But this article should be called Articles to avoid like the Plague. Anyone have the Bersa .380. You have not spoken to anyone that has something positive to say about the Pico? One thing that was not improved over the original LCP, however, is the sights. its a good resource with a lot of basic info on a LOT of handguns, a good start for anyone looking at a first gun, for example, or a second, for that matter. I have seen this kind of nonsense before but did not expect to see it here. And they didnt offer to just replace the thing, which is what I would do rather than leaving a dissatisfied customer wholl then post a comment like this on the internet. Hellcat 380. I happen to own a SCCY and have never ever had a FTF or FTE its a very light and compact gun in a 9mm platform with 11 rounds I own two of them, and they have turned out to be the highest quality most reliable firearms I own. Mine works, has worked, continues to work, and has never not gone bang. Voted by handgun magazine as a top pistol and great manufacturer. You have to use the recommened ammo in the manual. 5 Best 380 Pistols for Concealed Carry in 2022 - Gun News Learn to shoot pocket guns and find the truth yourself and stop listening to counter Clerks at big Box stores. I own a hp380. No I dont own one I own two. the fact you just dont like it? Ive owned a CPX 2 for about a year and we shoot every weekend. When I hear someone put down the Pico, I know they do not shoot often. Double strike capability, Magazines all stainless that look like custom 1911 mags. Springfield operator: 5.2 My Airweight has been dehorned and edges softened, carries so comfortably with a Hip Grip that I often forget about it. Um the SCCY is a near exact copy of the nearby(Cocoa,Fl) Keltec P-11. Look at the back of the slide. Examples of popular small pocket .380 autos include the original Ruger LCP, Taurus TCP, Smith & Wesson Bodyguard .380, and the Kel-Tec P3-AT to name a few. Thats whats currently on my hip and I love it. My PT 22 is surprisingly reliable. Years ago a mentor and I were at a range with an iron 30 plate/gong at 270 yards. The Pico is one of the most mild shooting pocket guns you will ever shoot. And of course not break down like they do with high volume shooting. My Gosh folks, this is total BS, read the directions. what a waste of time. Nice little write up- and way to plug your site. Actually the Hellcat felt better in the hand and was more accurate for me with a better sight than other micro pistols. (not missed, as in missed the target, but missed as in I pulled the trigger for the follow up shot and nothing happened because it had not reset). I chose. As in best gun LOL. It shoots all varieties of .380 ammo Ive ever run through it. Then I go to the LGS and shoot the guns myself, having sorted down to a handful that might meet my needs. I still have the same problem. After we shot a bit we could ring that gong regularly. However, they are among the worst guns for concealed carry. Designed to be smaller and more compact than the Nambu 14 for use by armored vehicle crewmen and pilots, the pistol had design On the plus side, the SCCY has a lighter trigger than the Kel-Tec P11 (which may explain the problem), but the P11 always goes bang. The small NAA revolvers make a good back up weapon, I own three of the little guns. And I will do my best to talk others out of Kahr products. Certainly it should appear on the Wikipedia page. Their Reviewers have alot of feed issues due to lack of knowledge of proper grip. Its been reliable since then for me. I give them a failing grade because neither gun reliably goes bang each time you pull the trigger on factory ammo. Totally precision stainless steel receiver, chassis, guide rod, best sights in class, best take down in class, One of the most Mild mannered shooting guns made for that size. The CW380 sucks. Small, accurate and reliable. Reliability is certainly suspect with a few of the .380's. I laughed when I got to the CM40. I know I hated my PF9 and would NEVER EVER buy any Keltec pistol again. Using that, Ive compiled a spreadsheet of the resultsby filtering down 200+ subcompact handguns, first by caliber (nothing weaker than .380 ACP), and then by size (nothing bigger than 5.77 long x 4.4 tall).That left 44 semi-autos, which I sorted by each guns average user rating. This gun is selling better than ever years later. Sorry, until you have vetted ratings, the site is nothing more than adspam. Also you gotta test the ammo you intend to use. Diamondback has been plagued by trouble. Shoot to make the thug dead. People cant make crap up in their comments? Best 380 Ive ever had. There are many different 380 pistol options, but our favorites include the following: Ruger LCP II, Walther PK380, Kel-tec P3AT, Taurus Spectrum, and M&P Shield EZ. Shooting (And Finally Breaking) the SCCY CPX-2: http://youtu.be/YzYm_CqMZG8. M&P Shield EZ .380 6. After this 1911 bill gets passed, Ill be carrying a 1911. The muzzle blast can be quite impressive and women should definitely fire their guns at the range. How many times do you change magazines in a self defense situation? These flaws include, but are not limited to: .380 pocket pistols have a well-deserved reputation for having some of the worst trigger pulls of any semi-automatic pistols on the market. After the 200 round break in if you have any, then yes you should be pissed. For those of you looking specifically for a concealed carry pistol, hold off on buying a Glock just yet. If its good Ill spread the word. Everyones hand size and perception of recoil is different and therein lies the beauty of having choice. With a much lighter trigger, enhanced slide serrations, wider grip, impressive stippling job, and the ability to slide lock on the last round, the LCP II is a definitive improvement over other comparable .380 pocket guns. We saw your review and write up. Web.380 pocket pistols have a well-deserved reputation for having some of the worst trigger pulls of any semi-automatic pistols on the market. The CM40 being smaller and lighter might exhibit a little more, but its not unmanageable. Overall, the trigger on the LCP II makes it infinitely easier to shoot than the original LCP. I live in Utah, so in the wintertime its a very high probability that Ill be wearing some type of glove. No gun, none, should have a mag release that is that stiff and impossible to use fast and effectively, especially in a carry gun none the less. I think by nature all auto pocket pistols suck. The movie Gigli had the worst, lowest rating ever on IMDB, voted on by tens of thousands of people. You really missed this one. Trash. Why Beretta didnt copy the ergonomics on that is a mystery to me. Ive been fortunate enough to be able to shoot a big variety of different .380s. The best one, so far, that I have shot with the least amount of re The reason the trigger pull is lighter is because it is a SA trigger versus the DA trigger on the original LCP. I use the site SlickGuns a lot to shop for deals and they ran into the same problem with upvotes and downvotes people vote something down just because they wouldnt personally buy it makes no difference if it is a good deal, good product, etc. .380 pocket pistols are incredibly easy to conceal, and this is what is largely attributed to their long time popularity in the United States. I went through 4 LCP. Those were the worst. I told him Im shooting the same Remington ammo in all of them (I dont use the reloads or Russian stuff). I assume the reason the CM40 sucks is similar. It seems like the all metal euro pistols of yester-year beat the new models in spades. And I dont know why Keltec lets Ruger & SCCY(and the defunct hellcat) slavishly copy their designs. Got over 1000 rounds through it, and no problems. They never protected their early designs/. IO stopped making them and moved to Florida. There really is NO WAY to know if the rating is based on a real, objective assessment of the firearm. Ive had one for 5 years with no more problems than a Kel-tech 380, and Ruger LCP I compared side by side at the range. Seriously?). It feels good in the hand and the materials and workmanship are fine. The trigger is long and weighty but smooth. I have a brand new Cobra that has never fired a shot ! Mostly new firearm buyers that buy into all the advertising and ridiculous internet junk. Kim Kardashian and POTUS are best two examples of known abuse. Kahr makes a lot of pocket guns, and several of them rate really well. Try posting a survey asking for votes on Glocks, for instance, and you will get a very polarized response . More than ever, the PPK is a statement of sophistication. He says it is a blunder. It is about 99% reliable, however, which is good enough to carry. Because they werent reliable? Unlike several riflesOh wait I might get a 22mag but not for big money. I find that many pistols jam because of a defective magazine thats not feeding properly. NOPE! As a back-up weapon to a larger pistol, the LCP II would also be a great choice as it has a very similar manual of arms to larger pistols such as Glocks while also being small enough to easily conceal carry as we have just seen. They were remarkably accurate and soft-shooting, too. Total joke. The Beretta Pico is probably one of Berettas biggest blunders. Its pretty clear why. And I didnt enjoy shooting my G27 until I got the extended base plates with additional capacity. Did anybody take the poor performing guns to a reputable gunsmith and have them tuned up? Votes on the best or worst of anything are all based on personal experience or having an ax to grind. It is considerably lighter and smoother than the original LCP and other comparable .380 pistols, and it also features the Glock-style bladed safety that must first be depressed in order for the trigger to be pulled. The Pico is built like a tank. I fire a couple of magazines a month thru them so as not to get too rusty . until you find a way to weed out braindead haters who vote based on their idiotic and unedumacated feelings all of your results will be skewed by gun store rednecks who dont know what the word ballistic even means. Anything In the Ring of Fire Family. either love or hate. YES, of course Id rate the G19 at least from a practical, hardcore perspective an obviously more robust, serious combat-capable CC piece, but when you think about it, here I am comparing a Glock 19 to a SCCY CPX-2 for certain situations and that HAS to be a compliment to the SCCY, in an offhand way (and dont accuse me of being a Glock fanboy I own diverse alternatives, and was actually very slow by choice getting into the Glock game.) I do feel though that its a little too light for a 9mm caliber . What really won me over was the quality and operation, even on the bargain CM. Bought it brand new. Beretta did a fine job on the Pocket Pistol. http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty1.jpg But if ultimate concealment is the need, then just accept that it will need to be .380. The problem with the group wisdom line of thinking is that you cannot separate the people with actual hands on experience with the firearm in question from actual users, which is always a problem with new guns. Nice gun, but many of Kahr owners go to the Pico and never look back. The LCP II also features forward and rear serrations on the slide, whereas the original LCP only featured serrations on the rear. I love mine(CPX 2,no safety) Best carry gun for your dollar bar none. I have thousands of rounds through the Picos and trust me, they hold up like the tank they are. It is accurate, easy to shoot, recoil is manageable. All guns I would have avoided anyway, except the Pico. The Mary Rosh controversy (where Lott used that pseudonym to answer critics and to post one favorable review of More Guns Less Crime) is discussed. :p. People generally avoid spam masquerading as journalism. Its fun to shoot really, PS: visited the site again, feeling slightly guilty for harping on the polling validity-. AND, NAA has first class warranty service. But, it doesnt like to be dirty. Unfortunately, my DB380 experience has mirrored that ofmany of our peers. The sccy is a great budget pistol. Bersa Thunder 5. I have no Idea how this writer came up with this Bottom Feeder nonsense. SRP: $269. Of course the gun was the new upgraded model. But that is just learning curve and a trade off when they removed the problematic safety from the earlier models. Actually if the SCCY is on here then the Mill Pro G2 should be also, and that gun is a trainwreck compared to the SCCY. I love shooting it, and I get closer groups than with my Kel-Tec P-11. 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